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    Microphone for commenting sports & events

    Hi! A customer of ours has and improvised studio in which they want to do commenting of sports and other events. It's basically an office.

    We asked the retailers and they suggested us coles 4104 microphone for this purpose. I have a few doubts though, first it being a bidirectional microphone, and second being made for outdoor usage.

    Another customer uses Sennheiser MD441 for a similar purpose (but no shouting like at the sports included Sennheiser MD441 is more expensive, but if it's a lot better and if it's what we actually need, we would take that.

    Which good microphone would you recommend for this? We wanted to buy two to have 2 commentators in the same office.

    thank you for your replies!

    Yure

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    Is the studio acoustically treated? If so, any $100 condenser will work. (We're talking speech here, not symphony orchestra.) If not, nothing will work.

    Being the cheap-ass I am, I would go to someplace like Guitar Center and buy a $100 MXL mic. (What I use for my voice work.) Then I would arrange to borrow the Sennheiser and do an A/B comparison. Don't just listen to the studio monitors; make a recording and take it around. Different speakers will show the mics differently. Be sure to listen to the sound when the announcer is not talking - how's the noise level?

    You may find the Sennheiser is absolutely superior, in which case you spent $100 to be sure of your choice and you have a backup mic to boot. Or you may find the MXL is better for your purposes, or just as good, or good enough, in which case you buy another one and you've saved $1400 on a pair of mics.

    The Coles mic is designed to permit reasonable sound in adverse outdoor conditions, where most other mics wouldn't work at all. It is not the thing to use in a studio.

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    The Coles mic is designed to permit reasonable sound in adverse outdoor conditions, where most other mics wouldn't work at all. It is not the thing to use in a studio.
    thank you for your answer.the studio is not acoustically treated. can you recommend some cheaper mic for this purpose?

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    They may have to temporarily treat the room by hanging up blankets. Also, if the computer has a fan, it will need to go into the next room. Radio stations and recording studios spend all that dough on acoustic treatment for only one reason: without it, you get sucky results.

    Good cheap mics? Need other people to weigh in here. If you've got a Guitar Center near you, they carry a selection of inexpensive condenser mics. (Don't get a dynamic.) One thing they used to offer, don't know if they still do, is a package with a can-style MXL mic, a pencil-style MXL mic, and a preamp. That's what I use.

    Coupla considerations: are you recording into a computer? A condenser mic will need a preamp with phantom power. You will need to get an analog to USB converter, so you can go into the computer with a digital signal. The sound card in the computer has a crappy preamp - trust me.

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    No, the mic goes into Panasonic AG-MX70. Why not a dynamic mic?

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    Because you have to pay $500 for a dynamic mic that's as smooth as a $100 condenser. At reasonable prices, condensers are just flat-out better.

    Bad news about the panasonic - it has only one mic input, and the noise level is not listed. If you want to use two mics, you need an external preamp. Or even if you don't want two mics, you might want the external preamp for the sake of getting a good one. One of the invariable laws of the Universe is that in video production equipment, video rides in a new Lincoln and audio rides in a 1994 Escort.

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