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    recording sound with MD PLAYER

    I am using a mini dv camera to produce a documentary. The omni microphone pics up poor quality sound.

    Is it worth using a md player with a directional microphone attached to record quality sound.

    will i encounter any problems when uploading sound onto pc to edit. Considering i am using the a camera to pic up images only and a md player to record sound. Can the sound be linked to the image without any delay of sound. Similar to those in old kung fu movies.
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    Hi Antman

    It usually works fine if you are using an NLE that allows adjust the time frame if it happens to go out of sync. A good investment for general doc work is something like a Rode Videomic on the cam for general sound and I prefer to use a wireless mic if I'm doing someone talking which saves having to have a boom operator.

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    what is an NLE.

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    Can the sound be linked to the image without any delay of sound. Similar to those in old kung fu movies.
    Sure. Buy (or build) a clapboard. Every time you stop the camera, stop the recorder, every time you start one, start the other, and sync them with a visual and aural clap at the beginning *and* at the end*** (or just clap in front of the camera within hearing range of the mic)



    *** I suggest to do the beginning and end as some consumer, non-linked digital sampling is prone to timing errors and any conversions that you make may cause the audio and and video tracks to become dissynchronous and stretch relative to each other, using two sync points, you can easily crop the temporal edges to these points and then stretch them to match (audio to match video is likely a more proper representation of time, as well as less likely to cause noticeable differences).
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    what is an NLE.
    Non-Linear Editor (editing software... or, a bunch of film and tape, some razors, and some splice tape )
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    Eric, you're revealing your age. I used to do a 7-second delay with 2 tape decks and if a bad word came over the phone, I could do a splice while the tape was running. A skill I've long since lost, I'm afraid.

    Antman, it may not be necessary to use a separate audio recorder. 50% of the problem is probably the wrong mic, and 90% of the remainder is having it too far away. Whatever is wrong with the minicam may account for 5%.

    The minicam has a place to plug in an external mic, right? I would guess it's a 1/8" jack. Get a cheapo lapel mic - Radio Shack, maybe - and plug it in. (The mic will probably require an internal battery.) Put the mic close to the person talking.

    If you frequently have to record at a distance, you need a shotgun mic. People who deal in minicams can get you one designed specifically for this purpose. The Rode mic mentioned, at $150 or so, is a very good choice. You may need to pull a sock (literally) over the mic in a strong wind.

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    sync them with a visual and aural clap at the beginning *and* at the end***
    Hey that's a great tip. I can't believe I've never come across that one. Quite obvious really when you think about it. Although it has been a while since I've come across that particular problem
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    Eric, you're revealing your age.
    Am I? I open this to guesses (via PM, of course). I'll tell you high or low
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    Hey that's a great tip. I can't believe I've never come across that one. Quite obvious really when you think about it. Although it has been a while since I've come across that particular problem
    Yea, with all of the all-in-one devices that do solve this sort of aligning issue on their own, along with using industry grade equipment that doesn't show this problem, it is easy to forget about (as well as other common low-end problems like "Auto whitebalance" being truely 100% constantly adjusting automatic and not a preset, etc.)
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    Who, me? I never speculate in public, it's indecent.

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